Can Groupers Get Ich

Bob Roberts
• Monday, 02 November, 2020
• 10 min read

And one more question, I have this porcupine puffer who has ICH and I tried every thing to get rid of it, hypo salinity, copper and freshwater dips and NOTHING helps. I added a little more live rock to my tank for the Toby to hide in, & no one has gotten eaten.

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Fishes often swim here and there, hide in a cave for some time or stay in one place. I put on my Sherlock Holmes hat and got to the bottom of this mystery.

One google search away, I discover the answer that our friendly fishes do get an itch. Underwater, there are insects, or more accurately, parasites that act as the fleas to fishes.

Some other factors that could lead to itching are high levels of toxins like ammonia or metals like copper in the water. The parasites could be a result of poor water quality, in this case, I am not talking about pH levels.

The poor water quality in regard to the environment could birth bacteria and parasites which later infect the fish. In some cases, a fish might get infected with parasites due to bad food.

Also, to maintain the quality of water, keeps the pH level balanced and avoid changing in temperature. Normally, if you find a fish scratching themselves, I would recommend having it checked out.

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Itching is natural, it isn’t something to worry about unless you notice white spots. If you notice white spots, it means your fish has an infection.

It isn’t considered deadly but, if your fish is already stressed, throwing the infection into the mix could lead to their death. On the first signs of white spots, I would recommend quarantining the fish because it is contagious.

Afterward, when it is hopefully healed, I would recommend treating the entire aquarium just in case the parasite spread before the quarantine. In the second stage, when it leaves the fish, you can increase the temperature and kill the parasite.

To kill the parasite when it’s on the fish, you will have to treat it with malachite green or formalin. The phenomena where fishes start swimming straight into things or rub themselves against objects is called flashing.

If you ever find a fish rubbing themselves against the rocks or any object, it’s trying to scratch an itch. You shouldn’t worry about the fish hurting itself because it is in full control.

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If the objects or rocks are too sharp, the fish could end up hurting itself or losing their scales. The fishes you’d commonly find rubbing against the sand are Peacocks and Has.

It isn’t a cause for concern, because the fish won’t hurt itself scratching against the rocks, as long as it’s not sharp. Other symptoms to the infection are scratching, gulping for air, or jumping out of the water.

I know they say you can 't put two of the same color groupers together. Being that the miniature was in the tank first would it still is a problem even though its only been a day. They are also the same species Cephalopods so there would likely be some major issues between the 2. Unless the tail has started to really thicken up and put on some good bulk the miniature would prob drive the newcomer to get some infection, ICH, disease etc.

The v tail grouper swims around the tank all day, he even comes to the glass to look at me, but my daughter chases him. Originally Posted by Hammerhed7 http:///forum/post/2483751 There is no way you can keep 3 groupers and a shark in a 150, the saddle back will get huge.

They will end up killing each other, most likely the saddle back will eventually be in their by himself I agree; not even a close call, I'm afraid. I used to have a 135 gallon tank and I have had a panther, miniature, Argus, damper, tail, blue and gold, marble shark, and a saddle back not all at the same time.

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I know the saddle eats a lot like the blue and gold and the two of them grow faster. My friend has a miniature in his tank for like a week, and then he put a panther, damper, and a blue and god grouper in on Sunday.

Originally Posted by gonefishcrazy http:///forum/post/2484110 I used to have a 135 gallon tank and I have had a panther, miniature, Argus, damper, tail, blue and gold, marble shark, and a saddle back not all at the same time. I know the saddle eats a lot like the blue and gold and the two of them grow faster.

My friend has a miniature in his tank for like a week, and then he put a panther, damper, and a blue and god grouper in on Sunday. (without the security of hiding places, most of his fish will soon croak due to stress, anyhow.

The LFS where he shops the guy doesn't warn you, he just tries to sell fish that's it. When I first started, I had a 55 gallon and it was not even a month, and he knew this, and he sold me a see clown, a panther grouper and human trigger.

I keep telling him to call me and let me know what he's buying beforehand, but he won't listen. H e have had different types of fish like an angel that ended up having ICH and killing the rest of the tank.

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I have some large shrimps in the tank and none of the groupers messes with them, even though they stay buried in the sand all day until after hours. He stays behind the same rock, I have to put the food close to his hiding spot for him to eat. The tail Swiss around the tank and even sorties passes by the miniature spot like he wants to fight but just swims away.

Only when its really late and the lights been out for a while he comes from behind the rock. You think I should move the rock he's hiding behind so the tail can get used to seeing him? Originally Posted by gonefishcrazy http:///forum/post/2484110 I used to have a 135 gallon tank and I have had a panther, miniature, Argus, damper, tail, blue and gold, marble shark, and a saddle back not all at the same time.

Originally Posted by Whitey http:///forum/post/2490706 You should probably change your tank to freshwater until you take some responsibility with this hobby. I see crazy stock lists every day and I don't see anybody telling them to go to freshwater.

The Atlantic Goliath grouper or Tamara (Epimetheus Tamara), also known as the Jewish, is a large saltwater fish of the grouper family found primarily in shallow tropical waters among coral and artificial reefs at depths from 5 to 50 m (16 to 164 ft). Its range includes the Florida Keys in the US, the Bahamas, most of the Caribbean and most of the Brazilian coast.

On some occasions, it is caught off the coasts of the US states of New England off Maine and Massachusetts. In the eastern Atlantic Ocean, it occurs from the Congo to Senegal.

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Young Atlantic Goliath groupers may live in brackish estuaries, oyster beds, canals, and mangrove swamps, which is unusual behavior among groupers. They may reach extremely large sizes, growing to lengths up to 2.5 m (8.2 ft) and can weigh as much as 360 kg (790 lb).

The world record for a hook-and-line-captured specimen is 308.44 kg (680.0 lb), caught off Fernanda Beach, Florida, in 1961. Considered of fine food quality, Atlantic Goliath grouper were a highly sought-after quarry for fishermen.

It is a relatively easy prey for spear fishermen because of the grouper's inquisitive and generally fearless nature. They also tend to spawn in large aggregations, returning annually to the same locations.

Until a harvest ban was placed on the species, its population was in rapid decline. The fish is recognized as “vulnerable” globally and “endangered” in the Gulf of Mexico.

The species' population has been recovering since the ban; with the fish's slow growth rate, however, some time will be needed for populations to return to their previous levels. Goliath groupers are believed to be protogynous hermaphrodites, which refer to organisms that are born female and at some point in their lifespans change sex to male.

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Males can be sexually mature at about 115 centimeters (45 in), and ages 4–6 years. In May 2015, the Atlantic Goliath grouper was successfully bred in captivity for the first time.

Tidal pools act as nurseries for juvenile E. Tamara. In tidal pools juvenile E.Tamara are able to utilize rocky crevices for shelter.

Besides shelter, tidal pools provide E. Tamara with plenty of prey such as lobster and porcelain crab. The Atlantic Goliath grouper has historically been referred to as the “Jewish”.

It may have referred to the fish's status as inferior leading it to be declared only suitable for Jews, or the flesh having a “clean” taste comparable to kosher food ; it has also been suggested that this name is simply a corruption of jaw fish or the Italian word for “bottom fish”, Giuseppe. In 2001, the American Fisheries Society stopped using the term because of complaints that it was culturally insensitive.

^ Lovato, Cleo nice Maria Cardozo; Soars, Bruno Clears; Begot, Tiago Octavio Buffalo; Montage, Luciano Coach de Assis (January 2016). “Tidal pools as habitat for juveniles of the Goliath grouper Epimetheus Tamara (Lichtenstein 1822) in the Amazonian coastal zone, Brazil”.

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Risky, Delaney C.; Bakenhaster, Micah D.; Adams, Douglas H. (2015). “ Pseudorhabdosynochus species (Monogenoidea, Diplectanidae) parasitizing groupers (Serranidae, Epinephrine, Epinephrine) in the western Atlantic Ocean and adjacent waters, with descriptions of 13 new species”.

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